Blue Jeans Cable Ten White Speaker Cable Review
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<A href="http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/bluejeanscable10awgp1.php"><IMG style="WIDTH: 75px; HEIGHT: 100px" alt=[bluejeansspeakercable] hspace=10 src="http://www.audioholics.com/news/thumbs/bluejeansspeakercable_th.jpg" align=left border=0></A>It's no secret we are fans of Blue Jeans Cable. In fact, scan forum threads throughout the Internet and you will usually find people mentioning Blue Jeans Cable and Audioholics in the same sentence. This is no coincidence. Blue Jeans Cable and Audioholics are on the same mission – a "no BS" approach while delivering the best products and/or services. With the flexibility of customizing cable lengths, termination types to your needs, CL3 approval for behind drywall installations, and choosing between pre-terminated convenience or self terminating cost savings options, you simply cannot go wrong.
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jonnythan
Audioholic Ninja
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Nice review, but what the heck is up with this graph?
It looks like you're saying that Blue Jeans Cable has identical resistance no matter what the gauge.
In fact.. that *is* what it's saying 
gene
Audioholics Master Chief
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It looks like you're saying that Blue Jeans Cable has identical resistance no matter what the gauge.
In fact.. that *is* what it's saying
No you need to re-read the graph and the stuff called text below it. I was showing the intersect point between DC resistance and the wire gauge curve so people can see it is equivalent to 10AWG resistance. The AC resistance graph is adjacent to that graph in the review and noted as such.
jonnythan
Audioholic Ninja
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gene said:
No you need to re-read the graph and the stuff called text below it. I was showing the intersect point between DC resistance and the wire gauge curve so people can see it is equivalent to 10AWG resistance. The AC resistance graph is adjacent to that graph in the review and noted as such.
I understand that, but the graph is still incorrect. You show specific data points for the Blue Jeans cable on a single X-axis with a single Y-axis corresponding to actual data points. Anyone looking at this graph who didn't know anything about wires or resistance would have to conclude that the Blue Jeans cable's resistance does not vary as a function of gauge. That's how the graph reads.
I understand that the actual audience here will understand what's going on, but for readability's sake I'd draw a straight line with no data points and probably take "Bluejeans" out of the legend to note it somewhere else.
I'm not trying to be a pain or anything, just attempting to offer a little constructive criticism
gene
Audioholics Master Chief
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Those are the terminations I ordered through Bluejeans on preterminated cables. They offer standard Banana and locking banana's which are depicted in the review.
westcott
Audioholic General
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I ran about 250 feet of this identical cable for my system, all under the floors and was very comfortable with the in wall rating and its overall performance.
I could not change it afterwards and I have been very happy with its performance at a fair price. Color coding is a nice touch and I terminated them myself with spade plugs and bananna plugs. 10 gauge may seem overkill to some, but it doesn't hurt and may future proof your system, should low impedance speakers become a part of your future.
Nice review!
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What size techflex would I need to get to use with the blue jeans cable?
jneutron
Senior Audioholic
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gene said:
No you need to re-read the graph and the stuff called text below it. I was showing the intersect point between DC resistance and the wire gauge curve so people can see it is equivalent to 10AWG resistance. The AC resistance graph is adjacent to that graph in the review and noted as such.
Hi Gene
Johnnythan is correct. The graph has indicated datapoints via the triangles.
Get rid of the triangles and specify the line as the 2 milliohm constant line, and the intersection will indeed be the definition you wished it to indicate.
Cheers, John
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They are probably the least sexy component in the whole AV chain but a chain is only as good as it's weakest link right? I've read most of the write-ups on this site but I can't recall ever reading any data concerning wall plates. Obviously we'd all prefer not to use them but sometimes we just have to. I guess everyone assumes that there isn't a performance degradation of some sort? You know what they say about assuming.
I can't for the life of me find anyone that sells wall plates that are rated to handle upto 10AWG so I have to ask where did you get yours? DVI Gear's only go upto 12AWG and Impact Acoustics only go upto 14AWG. You'd think that Blue Jeans would sell them or at least know where to get some (they did respond to me they'd ask around but I'm still waiting).
And here's another probably silly question. Your picture shows us just the visible side of the wall plate. How are they connected behind the wall to the plate?
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gene
Audioholics Master Chief
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The terminations I used were from SpeakerCraft. IMO, they offer some of the best speaker and coax terminations for wallplates.
Check out my article on the Audioholics Showcase Home Structured Wiring
for useful tips and recommendations.
Uh what do you think we are?
westcott
Audioholic General
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Toka said:
Great review! After reading this and the first faceoff, however, I'm somewhat stuck between picking up the Blue Jeans or the Cobalt...I've read some posts on this board that say they have the same internals, but if that is the case, why don't they measure the same? If those who have used both (either the writers on this site or otherwise) were given the choice of either, which would it be (assuming cost/appearance aren't a factor, strictly sound)? Or is there no real difference?
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to post all this info, you truly do the A/V community a great service.
The Cobalt cables are not bad cables, just not of the quailty of Blue Jean Cables. Better shielding and interconnects make the decision easy. BJ wins!
westcott
Audioholic General
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nibhaz said:
If I were giving an opinion, I would say so. It is pure fact. Blue Jean cables use double braided shielding and Canare connectors. Cobalt uses a braided and foil shielding with unnamed connectors. Not as effective shielding for most applications and the connectors fail the geometry test for 75 Ohm performance. The BJ cables do perform better in actual tests.
Cobalt does not divulge these facts. One must dig for them.
On the other hand, Blue Jeans if very up front about how and why their cables are built and why they perform better than other cables like Cobalt.
I suggest a browse of this link. It has some very valuable information for those who would like to know more about cables and what determines their performance for various applications.
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mtrycrafts
Seriously, I have no life.
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Toka said:
Then, your choice should be any one of them, including HomeDepot wire or monoprice wire. They don't have a sound of their own that is audible. No one has been able to demonstrate that they do.
jonnythan
Audioholic Ninja
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How did shielding and 75 ohms and interconnects come up in a speaker cable review thread?
westcott
Audioholic General
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I will never argue the point that one can hear an audible difference. It is too subjective.
But, based on actual objective testing, better shielding can provide better cable performance/noise rejection. This is not an opinion. This is fact and if nibhaz would like to acutally do some research and read the test results, you would know that these are proven results in actual testing conducted by BJ that is readily available information on their website, and not an assumption.
Based purely on construction and materials used, BJ makes a better designed cable than Cobalt. Whether or not you can hear a difference really depends on the user and the circumstances surrounding the installation.
As pointed out, these differences are only in audio/video cables, and far less applicable to speaker cable. For the latter, just make sure it is of adequate diameter, insulated, and in wall rated if used in this manner.
Source: https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/blue-jeans-10awg-speaker-cable-5t00up-review.20375/
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